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Another review of our police assessment course

published: September 15th, 2009

Bit of an ego trop for me this really, but cannot resist putting it on the blog!

 

“Hi John
 
 I just wanted to say thanks again for the course yesterday. It was excellent and certainly exceeded my expectations.
 
I found the whole day extremely useful and informative, in particular the role play sessions which really brought the process alive. This is in no small part due to your knowing the scenarios inside out and being able to jump straight into what ever character was necessary. I was also extremely impressed by your ability to maintain the high standard during the whole of what was quite a long day. Likewise, your knowledge of the process was first rate.  Having the benefit of this experience for the whole day was worth every penny.
 
The competancy based session was also very good and got me thinking about other potential examples I could use.
 
I would recommend this course to anyone thinking of joining the police and will do so when opportunities arise.  I now feel more confident in my ability to get through the assesment. 
 
Many thanks again, I’ll let you know how I get on.
 
Kind regards”

Talking Blues is looking for an Irish and Scottish officers or former officers who would be interested in taking on a franchise

published: August 13th, 2009

Talking Blues is the market leading police recruitment training company, running on average about 45 courses a year. Operating since 2001 in England and Wales, we now wish to meet officers, former officers or police recruitment support staff, from Ireland and Scotland who would be interested in starting a Talking Blues franchise in that area. Following the established and proven Talking Blues model, you will need the following skills;

An excellent knowledge of the police recruitment system (obviously!)

The ability to coach and develop people in an interesting way appropriate to their needs.

The ability to get your point across ina  humorous and informative fashion.

The strength of character to give development advice to students in an open and honest way, whether it is good or bad!

The Talking Blues philosophy is not to mollycoddle people, our role is to get them through the process. If they need a shove to wake them up to something they are doing, then we provide it if it will make them pass. If you can do all this in an informative manner, and keep peoples attention for ten hours, whilst ideally making them laugh every now and then, you could be our type of guy or girl.  

These abilities are more important than your background. Many police trainers can be lazy, relying on patronising material from NPIA, and just working for the money.  That will not be you. You will want not just the financial rewards but also the satisfaction when at the end of a course, all the students want to shake your hand and say thanks. Incidentally, We have no interest in political correctness, all of our students are equal, our role is to make their aspirations become reality.

This is a great opportunity to stay involved with the police, yet run effectively your own business and have all the benefits of being responsible for your own success.

If this may be you, please email our managing Director, John McTaggart, at john.mctaggart@talkingblues.co.uk

Consistency of marking for police applications and police assessments

published: August 13th, 2009

The issue of consistency has come up a few times in the past few weeks. For any answer that the candidate provides, how can anyone be sure that the answer will be marked in the same way by different assessors? Imagine a candidate is asked a question in relation to when they have experienced inappropriate behaviour. One assessor may listen to the answer, and think what a fantastic example of assertive behaviour the candidate has provided. Conversely, another assessor could be thinking the candidate did not go far enough in their actions, and should have taken the matter further. The police service would argue that these variations are all but eliminated by an intensive training course which explains to assessors how they should evaluate answers. The reality of this is that the actual training course for assessors consists of ten working days, during which they cover the principles of the entire assessment process. It is therefore foolish to suggest that every assessor marks every single answer in the same way. In short, the personality and personal outlook of your assessor will directly affect your mark. People have always liked people that fit in with their own ideas, and always will do.

Of course, to attain consistency is very, very difficult. The police service doesn’t help itself by the fact that many of the people involved in the assessment centre process are not human resource professionals. The background of the assessors is described in a separate section, but their work and life experiences will be completely different. Even if the entire ten day assessor training course was devoted to eliminating these differences, it would still be an impossible task. The reality of the situation is that only a few hours of that ten-day course will be devoted to marking students equally. To try and ensure consistency of marking, individual assessment centres, along with individual assessors are compared in some cases. Realistically however, this will not show up individual assessors making value judgments based on their own perceptions which may be to the candidate’s detriment.

Several years ago for example, there was a noticeable trend in the national sergeant and inspector promotion examinations – it was noted that where male assessors were concerned, attractive female candidates were marked more highly than would be expected. It was also noted that where role actors were supposed to be playing an aggressive part, they too tended to be less aggressive with attractive female candidates than male candidates taking the examination.

The police service of course will deny this. However, I would put forward the argument that such objectivity is not as easily obtainable as the service would suggest. If the service were completely confident that the marking of candidates for examinations and assessment both internally and externally, was as fair as it could be, they would allow candidates to be filmed during their performance. Therefore, if anyone felt they had been discriminated against, the matter could be easily resolved by having an independent panel of assessors view their performance. There would not be a huge cost implication either – all that would be needed is a video camera in each room and each candidate to bring a videotape. The service will not do this. I suggest this is because if a tribunal somewhere started comparing the videotapes of successful candidates in one location with videos from disputed performances by other candidates, huge discrepancies would be shown. In the absence of such videotape evidence, it is very hard for candidates to prove that their performance was in fact to the required standard.
One area in which this lack of consistency shows up is in the application form. The application form has not changed for a number of years, and is the same nationally. I have come across a number of examples where applicants have passed the paper sift once, then failed the assessment. they then reapply, naturally using the same form answers (as it has passed once before), and fail. the police would say that standards may have changed, but if so, in what way? is it not more likely that assessment standards for each assessor are different?

I ws speaking to one candidate recently who this happened to. he has submitted his form to force A, passed the paper sift with all grade B’s, then failed the assessment. he then reapplied six months latter to force B, using EXACTLY the same form. This time he got three C’ and a D, and so was rejected at papersift. he queried this, and for the first tie that i have ever heard off, force B remarked it and he was given an assessment. I know that my old crowd in cheshire would have just said tough, you have failed.

Welcome to the police!

A few recent police assessment success stories

published: August 1st, 2009

All recieved this week:

Hey John!!!

Dont know if you remember me but I attended your course in xx on 4th July 09.
I just want to let you know that I received my big brown envelope today! I was dreading opening it but I passed with 60%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just want to say a big big big thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I could not have done it without your course! Your material was brilliant and you were a brilliant teacher! I am so happy and Im going out to celebrate with my friends now.
Needs to start revising for my Interview now hehe!
Thank you so much again!

I would like to say a very big thank you for the help and advice that I received on 5th July in Kent.” I was dreading the police assessment role play exercises before I went on the Talking Blues course, but enjoyed doing them at my assessment centre after being taught how to approach them, and not to fear them. I managed to keep the conversation going in all of them for the full 5 minutes, and had to be cut short, and also the same for the interview questions!Got my results through yesterday and scored 64% overall, with 100% for oral communication.Many thanks, especially to Graham, don’t think I would of passed without your excellent help.

Hi,
I took the talking blues course on June 28th at Stafford, just to let you know I passed the police assesment and have my fitness test and would like to say thank you for the help. I will definately recommend this course to friends.
Once again Thank You

Hi,
I just wanted to thank you for all the help you gave me back in June (26th/ Hatfield) for my police assessment day preparation, I got my results yesterday and passed with 62% so am looking forward to my day 2 now!

Always makes us feel good, and we reckon that if we get stopped for speeding, at least 20% of the uniform officers in the country should know us by now!

Example police application form diversity answer.

published: July 26th, 2009

We are always being asked about how to get a good example of the above for the police application form and interview. Below is our advice on it.The tone and principles involved also cover the whole police recruitment and police assessment system. Not understanding them is the most common erros we see both at the police application stage and also the police assessment preparation that we do.

Where can you get examples from?

This question is basically about dealing with unacceptable behaviour. Ideally, your answer would be about challenging racist, sexist or homophobic behaviour, but you’re not limited exclusively to these kinds of examples. Any experience you may have had of someone making allegedly humorous remarks about, for example, the way people dress, speak, act or look may provide evidence. These could include age, weight or disability. In essence, you just require an example where someone has been doing something that would offend somebody else. It does not matter if that person was offended or not. As the question itself states, the assessors are looking for evidence that you did something positive to resolve the situation, whatever it was.

Everybody has seen someone at some time doing something that would make another person uncomfortable. Those candidates who say that they have not either live in some amazingly perfect part of the country, or are admitting that they do not recognise inappropriate behaviour.

An example diversity answer

Background

“A new female colleague transferred into my office at work. She was quite young, and had only been out of college for a few months. Immediately, my male colleagues began to make sexist comments towards her. Over a period of the few days, one male member of staff in particular began to pester her to go out for a drink with him. These attentions were clearly unwelcome, and she appeared embarrassed and upset by them.”

What I did

“I approached her and confirmed with her that she found the comments unwelcome. The next time the male made such a comment, I immediately challenged it, pointing out that he was causing embarrassment, and showing a lack of respect. I also told him that I found his conduct personally offensive, and that I intended to bring it to the attention of management if it were to continue.”

Why do you think the offender acted inappropriately?

“I do not think my male colleague had stopped to consider the effect of his actions. He regarded himself as being a bit of a joker, and was shocked when I pointed out the effect his thoughtless actions were having. He simply had not realised that the effect his actions had on the new staff member, and was immediately sorry.”

What would have happened if you hadn’t intervened?

“Had I not intervened, I believe the female colleague would have either left, or else had no alternative but to make a formal complaint to management. In any event, she would have been miserable at work, and the inappropriate comments from my colleague may well have got worse if left unchallenged.”