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Hertfordshire police assessment advice.

published: December 5th, 2011

Having been teaching Hertfordshire police applicants today, it seems that herts police recruitment evenings are allegedly back telling people it is not worth doing a course, as they, the police, will tell you everything we do. At the same time, they are also showing  a reading list with my book on it, which seems a bit strange, but still. There is also the fact that herts police have actually paid to use exercises written by us in the past. Below I have pasted a  blog article from 2010 regarding forces saying this, and I promise you the argument still holds true.

“We have had a few people this week asking us whether our courses are simply telling people what the official police open evenings do. Notts police for example are running open evenings. Whilst we would encourage going to one of these to show willing, they are pretty worthless. The suggestion our courses are just like the official police ones is so far from the truth that we actually cover it under the “Five reasons not to use us” button on the Talking Blues website. However, I have reproduced the text below:

“My force recruitment team/a bobby I know has told me I do not need to do a private course. A private company will not tell me any more than I would find out on the force recruitment evening I did when I got my application form. They are just charging me for something I can find out for free.”

If it is a police  recruiting officer telling you not to bother with us, consider this. The recruiters do not want prepped up candidates, they want to see you as you are. Prepped up candidates mean more people pass, which makes the assessors job harder. It is not in the recruiter’s interest for you to do a course as there is a much greater chance of you passing, and they will not care about your interest.

Interestingly though, police recruiters sometimes say that you will get told the same information at a free force recruitment seminar than you will at one of our courses. We always smile at this. To begin with, we guarantee that the person saying it will not have been on a Talking Blues course, so how do they know this to be true? We are also unaware of any police force using a specially written 160 page manual like ours. But think about this logically.

The job of the police recruitment department is to select the best candidates, NOT to help YOU as an individual pass. If the recruiters hold an open evening, then EVERYONE gets the same information (and it is usually generic rubbish anyway.) This means that by definition, YOU are no better off then everyone else. Talking Blues job is to make YOU the best candidate. As a commercial organisation, Talking Blues stands or falls by its ability to develop YOU so YOU PASS.

The average police recruitment evening will have at least  fifty people there and last 2 hours. There will be almost NO interaction between YOU and the recruiters. Our police recruitment courses are designed to develop YOU as an individual, and for example during the role play session, will focus on YOU doing individual role-plays, with feedback specific to YOU. Our courses therefore have a trainer ratio on average of 1:7, and last ten hours. We have our money back on the day guarantee if you are not happy that you have benefited. It is nonsense for police recruiters to say that a recruitment open evening is the same as our course. As regards the fact we charge for helping you, the same argument could be applied to driving instructors. We have knowledge that you desire in order to gain a great career, and meeting that need is our business. Search the web for our company and you will see how well we meet that need.

Bottom line: of course our course is totally different from open evenings. Open evenings simply inform EVERYONE what the process involves. So there is no advataneg to be gained from them as an individual, as everyone is told what you are. Our professionally written course takes YOU as an individual and explains to you what YOU need to pass. The two things are categorically not the same!

North Wales police applications starting

published: November 20th, 2011

Here is an update on what we have heard re North Wales Police applications and assessments:

2 days ago the force open recruitment for internal staff with a closing date of 30th November. There is currently a countdown marker on NWP website until this coming Monday (21st November), where recruitment will be extended to members of the public with a closing date of December 5th. The assessments for applicants who are successful with the application form will we hear start week commencing 16th January2012 at a centre in Coventry (which will probably be Ryton).

To accommodate this, we have puta course on our site for Mold, near Chester for early January 2012. We have also put extra copies of our book on Amazons shelves, as they got down to one or two copies recently.

South Wales police assessments Jan 2012

published: November 6th, 2011

In answer to the South Wales assessments due in Jan 2012 we will be running a course at the St.Mellons hotel in Cardiff on Dec 3rd. We always get a good turnout for the welsh forces. Last time we were there, we had about forty or fifty people who we trained in the end. I imagine we will do the same this time around. I understand that this time the job will be inviting many internal people. yet again, this is another example of in an environment where everyone is from a similar background, how do you differentiate yourself? Being a PCSO or specila will not be any advantage, as everyone else at the assessment centre will be too.

In Lancashire last month, we trained up about thirty people, and would expect that of those, at least 25 pass. That may be even more however this time around, as one needs to be in mind that the people invited to assessment tend to be of a higher quality than normal by definition of the fact they are already in the job.

Lancashire Police October assessments

published: September 10th, 2011

We have set up two  courses aimed at the above in Mid October. I am always asked by those already connected with the job “Why should we come ona  course as we are already connected with the police?”. This misses the point though. The idea of any kind of preparation course is to give you an advantage in terms of preparation for the assessment. As the Lancs assessment is like the Mets at the moment, in the context of only existing specials, CSO’s and police staff being allowed to apply, how are you going to stand out above everyone else. Everyone else in your assessment group will also be a special, cso or police staff. They will have the same experience as you, the same background, and probably be of a similar age and experience. What makes you different from them? But they cannot all get through. So how do you ensure you stand out? Make a mistake this time and you will be lucky to have another go for a good few years, and even then you will be facing all the other specials etc as well. This is why you should think about our course.  Being a good special will not be enough, nor will being a supervisor. If it was. you would not know loads of people who failed to get in last time, and you do, don’t you?

Why you need every advantage to get into the police!

published: November 29th, 2010

Taken from an extract from The Guardian Online from 29/11/10.Please visit their website for the full story. This happens in many forces, which is why you need to do a course!

Grahame Maxwell, who heads the North Yorkshire force, will be accused of gross misconduct, while his deputy, Adam Briggs, faces a straight misconduct charge over claims that friends or family of existing staff were favoured to fill a handful of jobs.

Both men are expected to deny the charges, with those against Maxwell the first to be levelled against a chief constable in the UK for 35 years.

Two other members of the force have been dismissed for nepotism, while a constable has been given a final written warning in connection with the affair.

The moves follow an investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission into allegations following the recruitment drive, which took place last winter.

More than 300,000 people applied for 60 jobs in the force, and the jobs line set up to cope with applications repeatedly crashed.

The IPCC worked with North Yorkshire police authority’s professional standards subcommittee, which made the recommendation for the two misconduct hearings.

The commission said the two senior officers were accused of working with staff under their line management to “circumvent the recruitment process”.

“The IPCC will not be in a position to publish its findings from the investigations until all misconduct matters are concluded,” a spokesman said.

North Yorkshire police said: “The individuals in question have a right of appeal. For that reason, it would not be appropriate to make any further comment at this time.”

The joint report is understood to contain evidence that the chief constable and his deputy misused their influence in the appointment process to give priority to a relative or relatives of Maxwell.

When the inquiry was announced in March, the IPCC commisioner, Nicholas Long, called the allegations a matter of “extreme concern.”

In a statement at the time, the IPCC said: “It is alleged the chief constable, Grahame Maxwell, gave assistance to one of his own relatives and a relative of Deputy Chief Constable Adam Briggs. It is also alleged DCC Briggs gave assistance to that same relative.

“Additionally, and separately, two police staff members are alleged to have used their positions to circumvent the initial phase to benefit themselves and one other person.”

The inquiry was led by Chief Constable Mike Cunningham, of Staffordshire police. The North Yorkshire assistant chief constable, Sue Cross, said at the time: “Our principal concern is to reassure applicants and the communities we serve that our recruitment process is fair and transparent.

“To that end, North Yorkshire police is currently conducting a very thorough integrity assurance exercise and co-operating fully with the IPCC.”

police chief and his deputy are to face serious misconduct charges following an independent report into alleged nepotism during a botched recruitment exercise. 

A police chief and his deputy are to face serious misconduct charges following an independent report into alleged nepotism during a botched recruitment exercise.

Grahame Maxwell, who heads the North Yorkshire force, will be accused of gross misconduct, while his deputy, Adam Briggs, faces a straight misconduct charge over claims that friends or family of existing staff were favoured to fill a handful of jobs.

Both men are expected to deny the charges, with those against Maxwell the first to be levelled against a chief constable in the UK for 35 years.

Two other members of the force have been dismissed for nepotism, while a constable has been given a final written warning in connection with the affair.

The moves follow an investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission into allegations following the recruitment drive, which took place last winter.

More than 300,000 people applied for 60 jobs in the force, and the jobs line set up to cope with applications repeatedly crashed.

The IPCC worked with North Yorkshire police authority’s professional standards subcommittee, which made the recommendation for the two misconduct hearings.

The commission said the two senior officers were accused of working with staff under their line management to “circumvent the recruitment process”.

“The IPCC will not be in a position to publish its findings from the investigations until all misconduct matters are concluded,” a spokesman said.

North Yorkshire police said: “The individuals in question have a right of appeal. For that reason, it would not be appropriate to make any further comment at this time.”

The joint report is understood to contain evidence that the chief constable and his deputy misused their influence in the appointment process to give priority to a relative or relatives of Maxwell.

When the inquiry was announced in March, the IPCC commisioner, Nicholas Long, called the allegations a matter of “extreme concern.”

In a statement at the time, the IPCC said: “It is alleged the chief constable, Grahame Maxwell, gave assistance to one of his own relatives and a relative of Deputy Chief Constable Adam Briggs. It is also alleged DCC Briggs gave assistance to that same relative.

“Additionally, and separately, two police staff members are alleged to have used their positions to circumvent the initial phase to benefit themselves and one other person.”

The inquiry was led by Chief Constable Mike Cunningham, of Staffordshire police. The North Yorkshire assistant chief constable, Sue Cross, said at the time: “Our principal concern is to reassure applicants and the communities we serve that our recruitment process is fair and transparent.

“To that end, North Yorkshire police is currently conducting a very thorough integrity assurance exercise and co-operating fully with the IPCC.”